Abstract. An all-sky VHF meteor radar (MR) has been continuously operated at Collm (51.3° N, 13° E) since summer 2004. The radar measures meteor parameters, diffusion coefficients, and horizontal winds in the mesopause region. There exists a temporal overlap of the MR wind measurements with co-located low-frequency (LF) ionospheric drift measurements until 2007. Comparison of MR and LF semidiurnal tidal phases allows to empirically determine the virtual height overestimation of LF reflection heights due to the group retardation of LF waves. LF reference heights have to be reduced by up to 20 km to match real heights. Correction of LF heights for group retardation allows to determine the wind underestimation by the LF method compared with meteor radar measurements and opens the possibility to continue long-term trend analysis using mesosphere/lower thermosphere winds.